When it comes to race, how uncomfortable are you willing to be?

So, you want to talk about race.

But... do you? Reallllly?

For most people, the real answer is no.

Conversations about race can be uncomfortable. People can be hurt; trust can be damaged. And when the two sides retreat to their opposite corners, there's always the question: Did that actually make a difference?

Bill sat down with Ijeoma Oluo, author of the new book "So you want to talk about race," to have one of those difficult, necessary conversations.