When it comes to Native issues, is Bob Ferguson any better than Trump?

You know the drainage pipes you sometimes see sticking out from underneath a road? They're called culverts. And they're creating a division between Washington tribes and state attorney general Bob Ferguson. The sovereign nations claim that Ferguson is failing to uphold their treaty rights; in response, he's escalated the lawsuit to the Supreme Court of the United States.

Writer Gyasi Ross, who's a member of the Blackfeet Nation, said that in his handling of Native issues Ferguson is no better than Trump. We spoke to Gyasi and Colleen Echohawk-Hayashi, executive director of the Chief Seattle Club, about the culverts, the search for Seattle's new police chief, the recent one-night count, and whether or not they're stunting on social media in the city's parks.

Colleen Echohawk-Hayashi is a member of KUOW's board of directors.