Rep. Jordan On Giuliani's Role In Ukraine Strategy: Trump Can 'Have Who He Wants'

Jessica Taylor

November 14, 2019 / 4:05 pm

caption: Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, has joined the House Intelligence Committee to bolster Republican defense of President Trump in the impeachment inquiry.

Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, is doubling down on his defense of President Trump as well as Rudy Giuliani's role in the Ukraine controversy amid the ongoing impeachment inquiry.

In an interview with All Things Considered host Audie Cornish, Jordan argued that the president couldn't have done anything wrong in regard to Ukraine because foreign policy is the sole purview of the White House.

"The president is allowed to have who he wants involved in diplomatic concerns," Jordan said in reference to Giuliani, the president's personal lawyer and former New York City mayor, who has become a central figure in the inquiry. At one point, Jordan claimed that Giuliani's role was akin to prior presidents having people like U2 lead singer Bono "do diplomatic missions."

Jordan's defense of Guiliani's role comes a day after longtime U.S. diplomats William Taylor and George Kent raised questions about the "irregular" diplomatic channel that they say Giuliani directed. Taylor and Kent say they were left out of that loop as Giuliani sought to pressure the Ukrainian government to open an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

On the question of military aid being withheld from Ukraine — which impeachment witnesses have said was tied to the ask for investigations, Jordan said the White House needed to vet the new Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

"You know what, this new guy, Zelenskiy, this former media star" needed to be approached, Jordan said. Once Vice President Pence, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson and others who attended his inauguration and returned saying, " 'This guy is the real deal. He's worth the risk, he's worth the investment, ' " the money was then released, Jordan argued. He also noted the congressionally approved aid was released "in spite of the fact that Ukraine's one of the most corrupt countries on the planet."

The money was released without explanation of what had changed on Sept. 11, as lawmaker pressure began to mount about the aid holdup.

Jordan was appointed just last week to the House Intelligence Committee by GOP leadership, adding another fierce ally and defender of Trump to the panel. The former wrestling coach has proved pugnacious in the past, something House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy alluded to in his statement announcing Jordan's addition, saying that the Ohioan "has been on the front lines in the fight for fairness and truth. His addition will ensure more accountability and transparency in this sham process."

Jordan has already had a visible role in the impeachment inquiry, as the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee.

In his inaugural outing during Wednesday's hearing — the first public hearing of the inquiry — Jordan didn't disappoint Republicans. He grilled both Kent and Taylor, dismissing their testimony as irrelevant and convoluted, second-hand information.