Jon Meacham On Thomas Jefferson

Many books have been written about Thomas Jefferson. The latest, by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Jon Meacham, seeks in part to rehabilitate Jefferson’s legacy, reinstating him as a consummate politician and an idealist for human liberty, even as he fell short in ending one of America's greatest injustices. How did Jefferson see his role in the evolving American idea? Jon Meacham joins us to talk about "Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power."

Also this hour: Governor Chris Gregoire leaves office in January but she doesn't intend to spend her remaining time in Olympia as a lame duck. She joins us to talk about her eight years as governor, her priorities for her final months in office and where she might wind up next. Plus, Michael Fagin joins us with a hike to match the week's weather.