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After Otto Warmbier's Release, Will U.S. Ban Travel To North Korea?

Jun 16, 2017
Originally published on June 16, 2017 4:16 pm

After Otto Warmbier, detained for more than a year in North Korea, returned home this week in a coma, the Trump administration is looking into ways to stop other Americans from going there.

The State Department currently warns Americans against travel to that country, but Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has signaled he may go further.

"We have been evaluating whether we should put some type of travel visa restriction to North Korea," he told a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing Wednesday. "We have not come to a final conclusion, but we are considering it."

Fred Warmbier, Otto Warmbier's father, told reporters that his 22-year-old son is "a young, thrill-seeking, great kid" who was on a trip organized by a Chinese-based company called Young Pioneer Tours.

"They advertise it as the safest trip ever," he said Thursday. "But they provide fodder for the North Koreans, and my son happened to become fodder for the North Koreans."

The travel company says on its website that North Korea is "extremely safe!" A Young Pioneer Tours official told a news site that focuses on the region that only one person — Otto Warmbier — has ever been arrested among the 8,000-plus international travelers who have taken part in the company's tours.

It is highly unusual for the U.S. government to restrict the ability of Americans to go abroad.

"Those toughest restrictions on travel and tourism right now only really apply to Cuba," says former Treasury Department official Elizabeth Rosenberg. She says there are plenty of restrictions on what Americans can do in countries that face U.S. sanctions — like North Korea or Iran. But U.S. citizens are not banned from travel to either place.

It would take an act of Congress to impose a full-on travel ban. But, according to the State Department, the secretary of state can unilaterally impose a "geographic travel restriction." None are in effect now, but such a restriction means U.S. passports are invalid "for travel in, through or to" a country with "armed hostilities," at war with the U.S. or posing "imminent danger to the public health or physical safety of U.S. travelers."

But, says Rosenberg, "Putting in place the kind of restrictions that would require U.S. citizens to seek a license to go to North Korea — most of that falls to Congress to do."

South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson co-sponsored a House of Representatives bill to do just that, even before Warmbier's release. The Republican congressman says he wants to make sure the Treasury Department does not issue licenses for tourism to North Korea.

"If there are humanitarian efforts that are being conducted, that's fine," he says. "But tourism only really backs up a totalitarian regime."

Wilson was part of a congressional delegation visiting North Korea back in 2003. Wilson describes what he saw as a Potemkin village.

"It appears to be exotic to go to the country, but it's all staged," he says. "People don't need to go because there is nothing real. While I was there, it was clear to me that the people on the street, the people we met, the tours that we had, were not real."

Wilson points out that 17 Americans have been detained in recent years in North Korea. Three are still in jail.

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The Trump administration is looking into ways to stop Americans from going to North Korea. This comes after the dramatic news this week that an American student detained for more than a year in North Korea returned home in a coma. NPR's Michele Kelemen reports.

MICHELE KELEMEN, BYLINE: Fred Warmbier describes his son Otto as a thrill seeker who was on a trip organized by a Chinese-based company called Young Pioneer Tours.

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FRED WARMBIER: They advertise it's the safest trip ever. And, you know, it's the one your mother wouldn't want you to go on. But what they do is they provide fodder for the North Koreans. And they happen - my son happened to become fodder for the North Koreans.

KELEMEN: The travel company claims that North Korea is still safe. An official told a news site that focuses on the region that only one person was arrested among the 8000 or so international travelers that have been on its tours. The State Department warns Americans against travel to North Korea. And Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is signaling he may go further.

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REX TILLERSON: We have been evaluating whether we should put some type of travel visa restriction to North Korea. We've not come to a final conclusion, but we are considering it.

KELEMEN: It's highly unusual for the U.S. government to restrict the ability of Americans to go abroad. A former Treasury Department official, Elizabeth Rosenberg, says there are plenty of restrictions on what Americans can do in countries like Iran or North Korea that face sanctions. It would take an act of Congress for a travel ban.

ELIZABETH ROSENBERG: Putting in place the kind of restrictions that would require U.S. citizens to seek a license in order to go to North Korea - most of that falls to Congress to do.

KELEMEN: South Carolina Republican Joe Wilson is co-sponsoring a House bill to do just that. And the congressman says he wants to make sure that the Treasury Department does not issue licenses for tourism.

JOE WILSON: If there are humanitarian efforts that are being conducted, that's fine. But tourism really only backs up a totalitarian regime.

KELEMEN: Congressman Wilson went on a congressional delegation to North Korea back in 2003 and describes it as a Potemkin village.

WILSON: It appears to be exotic to go to the country. But it's all staged. People don't need to go because there's nothing real. While I was there, it was very clear to me that the people on the street, the people that we met on the tours that we had were not real.

KELEMEN: Wilson points out that 17 Americans have been detained in recent years in North Korea. Three are still in jail. Michele Kelemen, NPR News, Washington. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.