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The Record: Wednesday, Jan 4, Full Show

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There are two Washington states they say: the Husky side, the Cougar side, the salmon side, the apple side. But will the Cascade split drive us apart?

Also, what are the challenges of running a Seattle public radio station while black -- we'll get our own general manager's take on the unbearable whiteness of journalism.

And what a former Washington governor can teach you about our new president.

Why you can trust KUOW