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Environmentalists Gird For Battle With A Trump Administration

Nov 30, 2016
Originally published on November 29, 2016 3:26 pm

President-elect Donald Trump says environmental regulations are stifling the U.S. economy. He has vowed to roll back some of those rules, and he's also taken aim at the international climate agreement signed in Paris last year.

Now, environmentalists are getting ready to fight back. Some are soliciting donations by invoking an inevitable legal battle. And environmental attorneys are preparing their defense.

Natural Resources Defense Council attorney John Walke says that if Trump tries to roll back environmental rules, the group's strategy will be: Sue, baby, sue. "We and other citizens groups will go to court, and the courts will overturn those actions," Walke promises.

Lawyers usually say they're going to win, but Walke has some evidence to back up his claims. NRDC and former Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman examined court rulings on the Clean Air Act during the George W. Bush and Obama administrations. Mostly, environmental groups sued to keep the Bush-era Environmental Protection Agency from relaxing regulations. Industry groups mostly sued the Obama EPA to stop or delay regulations.

"The results were striking," Walke says. "Most Clean Air Act lawsuits brought against the Bush administration were successful. Most lawsuits brought by industry against the Obama administration were unsuccessful."

By the NRDC's count, environmental lawyers challenging the Bush EPA won 27 times and lost 11. Industry's win-loss ratio against Obama's EPA was 5 to 15. Walke says one reason is the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. That's where almost all clean-air lawsuits are litigated. He says it's a court that knows the Clean Air Act well and is committed to upholding it.

Even before Trump could change or rescind a regulation, though, there's a lot of red tape for a Trump EPA to get through. Says Walke: "They have to seek public comment, they have to make sure their actions are consistent with science and the law, founded upon studies that just cannot be made up by people who are climate deniers, for example."

So long-standing regulations are tough to overturn. But more recent ones may be vulnerable to congressional nullification.

Congress can invoke something called the Congressional Review Act. It gives Congress the power to rescind regulations within 60 working days of their enactment, if the president approves. So any regulation enacted 60 working days before Trump's inauguration could be vulnerable to the new Republican-led Congress. Several new rules, such as limits on methane emissions from oil and gas operations, fall in that category.

Trump's other big target is the climate deal agreed to in Paris last year. Nearly 200 countries set goals to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Trump first said he wants to drop out. Then he said he is "open" to it.

"We do not know what the Trump administration is going to do" on the Paris deal, says Andrew Light, who helped negotiate the Paris deal for the U.S. State Department and is now with the World Resources Institute and George Mason University.

Trump has several options that would effectively pull the U.S. out of the Paris accord. If he does, Light's worried that the other big greenhouse gas emitter — China — could pull out, too. "If the United States is not on board and if China is not on board," he says, "then we're not actually going to achieve these goals" to reduce emissions.

Chinese diplomats have said their government would stick with the Paris deal even if the U.S. doesn't. But even if China does, its government could decide to downsize its emissions targets. And others might follow. "I think we will see a lot of countries begin to have an internal domestic debate," Light says, "about whether or not it still makes sense to hold onto and keep up the ambition they expressed at Paris in a world where potentially we could see the United States back down. And that's what really concerns me."

India is one example. Light notes that while the government is officially dedicated to working to slow climate change, some 300 million Indians lack electricity. "You really are talking about intense pressure for not only more solar," Light says, "but for a lot more coal, which will have a tremendous impact on the climate balance sheet for the entire planet."

In fact, several countries, including China, are planning to invest billions of dollars financing and building new coal-fired power plants in the developing world. The Obama administration has been trying to persuade them not to, but Light says a U.S. withdrawal from Paris might well scotch that effort.

The thing that made a global deal in Paris possible — making it voluntary — now gives Trump a fairly easy way out. There's no penalty and no court for environmentalists to appeal to. But Light says there is a diplomatic strategy: Urge foreign governments to walk away from any deal with the U.S. — trade, security, whatever — unless climate action is on the table.

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Donald Trump also pledged to roll back environmental regulations he says are stifling the economy. He also says he's considering pulling the U.S. out of the international climate agreement signed in Paris last year. It limits greenhouse gas emissions. As NPR's Christopher Joyce reports, the environmental movement is preparing its defense.

CHRISTOPHER JOYCE, BYLINE: Environmental groups plan to meet the Trump administration in court. At the Natural Resources Defense Council, attorney John Walke says if Trump tries to roll back environmental rules, their strategy will be sue, baby, sue.

JOHN WALKE: We and other citizen groups will go to court, and the courts will overturn those actions.

JOYCE: Now, lawyers usually say they're going to win, but there is a won-lost record here. NRDC and former Democratic Congressman Henry Waxman examined court rulings on the Clean Air Act during the Bush and Obama administrations. Mostly, environmental groups sued to keep the Bush EPA from relaxing regulations. Industry groups mostly sued the Obama EPA to stop or delay regulations.

WALKE: The results were striking. Most Clean Air Act lawsuits brought against the Bush administration were successful. Most lawsuits brought by industry against the Obama administration were unsuccessful.

JOYCE: By NRDC's count, environmental lawyers challenging the Bush EPA won 27 times and lost 11. Industry's win-loss ratio against Obama's EPA was 5-to-15. Walke says one reason is the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. That's where almost all Clean Air lawsuits are litigated. Walke says it's a court that knows the Clean Air Act well and is committed to upholding it. Even before Trump could change a regulation, though, there's a lot of red tape to get through.

WALKE: They have to seek public comment. They have to make sure that their actions are consistent with science and the law, founded upon studies that just can't be made up by people who are climate deniers, for example.

JOYCE: So longstanding regulations are tough to overturn - but more recent ones, not so much. Congress can invoke something called the Congressional Review Act. It would give Congress the power to rescind regulations approved within 60 working days previous to Trump's inauguration. Several new rules, such as limits on methane emissions from oil and gas operations, would be vulnerable to the new Republican Congress.

Trump's other target is the climate deal agreed to in Paris last year. Nearly 200 countries set goals to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Trump first said he wants to drop out. Then he said he is open to it.

ANDREW LIGHT: We do not know what the Trump administration's going to do on these issues. We just don't know.

JOYCE: Andrew Light helped negotiate the Paris deal for the State Department. He's now with the World Resources Institute and George Mason University. Trump has several options that would effectively pull the U.S. out of the Paris deal. If he does, Light's worried that the other big greenhouse gas emitter, China, could pull out, too.

LIGHT: If the United States is not on board and if China is not on board, then we're not going to actually be able to achieve these goals.

JOYCE: Even if China stays with the Paris deal, its government could decide to downsize its emissions targets. If the U.S. and China pull back, others might follow. Take India. Light notes that some 300 million Indians lack electricity, and there's tremendous pressure there to use a lot more coal.

LIGHT: Which will have a tremendous impact on the climate balance sheet for the entire planet.

JOYCE: The Paris deal is voluntary. There's no court for environmentalists to appeal to if Trump pulls out. But Light says there may be a diplomatic strategy - urge foreign governments to walk away from any deal with the U.S. - trade, security, whatever - unless climate action is on the table. Christopher Joyce, NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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